MHD Fare Alert!
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[This message has been edited by bLuJaay (edited 05-16-2001).]
After that it is very straight forward......just enter "multi city" and choose your dates, class of service and etc.
Good luck
More likely that a flight was cancelled and something substituted that should not have been.
I just priced out a YOW-YYC-CUN trip 5 seconds ago for $1430 in J.
I was surprised, though, when one of the agents asked about electronic ticketing. It turned out that they couldn't because of the interline flights, but they mentioned that they could now e-ticket up to 16 segments. I didn't know that was possible.
She said that you have to call MX to find out.
Or is that a requirement for ticketing and not travel?
Either way this further affirms my assertation that AC are out to make our lives difficult. MHD was actually encouraging passengers to buy AC tickets, not some trick to take AC to the cleaners. Now even "legitimate" passengers going to Mexico may avoid AC because of prohibitively high fares with stopover.
But hopefully you should have already changed the outbound departure date, otherwise it may be a hassle to "re-schedule."
The issuing carrier (airline) should be stated on the paper ticket in the upper left corner. Check their fare rules on Expedia before they expire on May 29. Print them out and keep them, just in case.
On the very first screen, on the "quick flight search", there are two radio buttons, one for round-trip and one for one-way. Next to them is a link to "multi-city search".
In fact you don't want to do this, you want to (a) login and (b) click on "flights" under "advanced search options". I can't tell you exactly what you get, but that's the best way to go.
andrew
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The fares haven't changed--the routings have.
If you want to fly from YVR to MZT, it is still only $1200 in J. You just can't get there through YYZ anymore. But you can still stopover at any of the intermediate points on the approved routing.
Other than PVR, I would not describe any of the fares to Mexico as unreasonably expensive.
Where in the ITN screen do I enter multicity - and then does it give options to enter multiple city pairs, with multiple segments?
Anyways though seems like AC finally caught on to this loophole. But the MHD call still be done to cities within the US and we could always use other airlines in the US as well. But for travel to another city in Canada such as YYZ to YVR it may be tough now, unless you can find a MHD that allows SEA as a stopover and then travel from SEA to YVR on your own.
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Ottawa (YOW) to Toronto (YYZ) Monday, May 21
Air Canada 477
Airbus A319 May 21 06:15 YOW
May 21 07:22 YYZ
Class: Business
Toronto (YYZ) to Miami (MIA) Tuesday, May 22
Air Canada 916
Airbus A320 May 22 10:10 YYZ
May 22 13:16 MIA
Class: Business
Miami (MIA) to Mexico City (MEX) Wednesday, May 23
Aeromexico 429
McDonnell Douglas MD-80 May 23 08:00 MIA
May 23 10:20 MEX
Class: Business
Mexico City (MEX) to Los Angeles (LAX) Thursday, May 24
Mexicana Airlines 928
Boeing 727-200 May 24 07:30 MEX
May 24 09:20 LAX
Class: Business
Los Angeles (LAX) to Vancouver (YVR) Friday, May 25
Air Canada 3540
Boeing 737 May 25 08:00 LAX
May 25 10:40 YVR
Class: Business
Vancouver (YVR) to Toronto (YYZ) Saturday, May 26
Air Canada 3984
Boeing 767-300/ER May 26 07:30 YVR
May 26 14:55 YYZ
Class: Business
Toronto (YYZ) to Ottawa (YOW) Saturday, May 26
Air Canada 464
Airbus A320 May 26 19:00 YYZ
May 26 20:00 YOW
Class: Business
Base Airfare (excluding taxes) CAD 1907.00 (Adult)
Total Airfare (including taxes) USD 1301.84
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Maybe AC is glad to be rid of this but it will actually mean less revenue not more as we are now liberated!
Funny thing is, it is still a couple of hundred dollars cheaper even with new fare structure to go via MEX/PVR from YYC-YYZ!
I wonder how they can scheme like that and put direct connect rule on a full J ticket[?]
Fly Boy, you misunderstand. Stopovers are still allowed.
Now even "legitimate" passengers going to Mexico may avoid AC because of prohibitively high fares with stopover.
Yeah, right!! Passengers won't travel AC to Mexico because they aren't allowed to stop at a city that takes them 5,000 miles out of their way?
YOW-YYZ-YVR-LAX-MIA-YYZ-YOW
The fare is 6963
Now insert CUN:
YOW-YYZ-YVR-LAX-CUN-MIA-YYZ-YOW
and the fare drops to 3797
Question #1 - Am I "hooped" on the April MHD that I did not use (ie. they won't reticket the same flights at a future date at the same fare of $1492) IF so, is my only option to cancel it?
Question #2 - Is everything fine for the August MHD? Anything I am missing?
Thanks in advance.
Jet Fan
I think I know the answer to this question...but there is always the small doubt in the back of my mind? Will AC give me any problems on my upcoming MHD during the long weekend? The ticket was purchased on May
6th and picked up that day.
My take is that this is the same as buying a ticket one day at xyz $$$ and the rate goes up the next day to abc $$$.If ticketed,you are ok.
what was the quoted fare, and what was the fare code, for this itinerary?
andrew
Yeah, right!! Passengers won't travel AC to Mexico because they aren't allowed to stop at a city that takes them 5,000 miles out of their way?
For example (and perhaps a bad one); Ottawa-Toronto-Mexico. Toronto is not 5000 miles from Ottawa. Nevertheless not my point. What I am saying is that AC fares will now seem more expensive under various circumstances than the alternatives.
Fun while it lasted. May have to start flying more round the world and other N American airlines!
I think AC ratings department is onto this...
I am not familiar with the method of determining the fare, or booking for it, for a multi-segment itinerary (I am only familiar with booking a routing between city A and city B and back), between many cities?
I would appreciate one's advice on this matter.
Regarding your August ticket, it should be fine. Some people are misunderstanding it, MHD is not illegal, AC is changing the fare rules so that we can no longer take the routings that we've been taking. If you've already been ticketed, then you have nothing to worry about at all.
Question #1 - Am I "hooped" on the April MHD that I did not use (ie. they won't reticket the same flights at a future date at the same fare of $1492) IF so, is my only option to cancel it?
Question #2 - Is everything fine for the August MHD? Anything I am missing?
Thanks in advance.
Jet Fan
No- I haven't yet approached AC yet about rescheduling my April MHD, but I was worried that when I do approach them with the new dates they will tell me that they can't re-ticket at the same price.
But if I understand you correctly, you are saying that since they are already paid for and ticketed, I have nothing to worry about?
Thx.
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I was planning to book my first MHD in a week or 2, for travel in early July (so that I could still be eligible for the AC promotion giving 200% miles for J class fares). If Air Canada has indeed closed the loophole for the relatively low fares, than I will find it too expensive to book the MHD.
It looks like the media has finally got Air Canada's attention with all those interviews and feature articles.
By the way, Air Canada is VERY AGGRESSIVE is changing fare rules and costs.
They just changed many short haul flight rules leaving London, Kingston, etc. The price is now higher with tighter restrictions. So maybe some of the new employees hired few months ago were specially trained to re-write fare rules to enhance revenu? And we are starting to see the results?
Could someone maybe see what's wrong, I couldn't figure it out and if it was showing the "right" fare before, that means nothing is wrong.
File 1:
June 16 YOW-YYZ AC453 1:00P - 2:07P
June 16 YYZ-YVR AC3995 5:15P - 7:06P
June 18 YVR-LAX AC3533 4:30P - 7:19P
June 18 LAX-MEX MX137 11:55P - 5:30A
June 19 MEX-LAX MX928 7:25A - 9:15A
June 19 LAX-YVR AC3535 11:30A - 2:10P
June 20 YVR-YYZ AC3986 10:30A - 5:55P
June 20 YYZ-YOW AC464 7:00P - 8:00P
Fare quoted: $5651.10 CAD!!!
File 2:
June 10: YOW-YYZ AC477 6:15A - 7:22A
June 10: YYZ-YEG AC3923 8:40A - 10:50A
June 10: YEG-YYC AC8393 1:00P - 1:50P
June 10: YYC-YVR AC217 2:30P - 2:53P
June 14: YVR-LAX AC3541 6:45A - 9:34A
June 14: LAX-MEX MX929 10:25A - 4:00P
June 14: MEX-CUN MX357 7:20P - 9:25P
Fare quoted: $2423.00 CAD for One way J! This was showing $710 up til this morning. I played around with the dates and routing and couldn't fix it!
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As far as the issuing airline goes, it just says " '*' OPERATED BY AC PARTNER". Will this cause any complications possibly?
JF
She came up with a one-way fare of $795 in J.
Is this not a "through" fare (i.e. no YVR stopover)?
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